Area Forecast Discussion
Issued by NWS Los Angeles, CA
Issued by NWS Los Angeles, CA
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531 FXUS66 KLOX 081802 AFDLOX Area Forecast Discussion...UPDATED National Weather Service Los Angeles/Oxnard CA 1002 AM PST Wed Jan 8 2025 .SYNOPSIS...08/112 AM. Widespread damaging north to northeast winds and extreme fire weather conditions will continue through mid afternoon. Downed trees and power lines, power outages, hazardous driving conditions, increased traffic, and airport delays should be expected across the Southland. Any wildfires that start will likely spread rapidly with extreme fire behavior. Otherwise, dry conditions are expected with warmer conditions to develop for late week. && .SHORT TERM (TDY-FRI)...08/259 AM. The high speed river of air remains over LA County this morning and is fueling a widespread major wind event. The core of this low level jet will slowly move southward during the day and this will cause the winds over LA to slowly decrease. Since the wind speeds are so high now (mtn gusts 70 to 90 mph) the slow decrease will not bring the winds down to below warning levels until early evening. There will, however, be a fairly notable drop off in wind speeds late this morning. Please the the produce LAXNPWLOX for all of the information about the current slate of wind warnings and advisories. Please see the fire weather discussion below for information on all of the fire weather danger. The offshore push from the north is decreasing, while the offshore push from the east is increasing. These two things along with a slight tilt to the NE in the upper level winds will turn the winds a little more to the northeast. This will shut off the winds in a few places, but turn them on in areas that have been fairly calm. Its likely that many areas in western VTA county will see stronger winds this morning. It is unlikely, however, that this switch will affect the winds at the Eaton or Palisades fires. After ydy`s huge surge of cold air from the interior, which cooled the entire area despite the offshore, max temps today will warm esp in the inland areas. The offshore push on Thursday is about half of what it is today. Additionally the upper support will also be much weaker. As a result the winds will be weaker. At this time it looks like the only advisory level winds will be in the LA and eastern VTA mtns. Slightly higher hgts and much less cold air advection will bring 2 to 5 degrees of warming to most areas. Unfortunately it looks like another Santa Ana is on tap for Friday. The offshore push from the east will increase to 6 or 7 mbs and the NE upper support will increase. This will be a more typical Santa Ana with predominantly NE winds focused along the typical Santa Ana wind corridor from the Santa Clarita Vly to Point Mugu. Wind advisories are likely in this area from early morning to early afternoon. The downsloping winds will also reduce the humidities and increase the fire danger. One last detail...Overnight lows will likely be very chilly in the wind-sheltered areas the next couple of nights. Residents across Southern California are urged to remain vigilant and monitor the latest forecasts. There is high confidence in strong offshore winds with the potential to be the strongest wind event of the season, especially for the Southland valleys. Trees, large tree branches, and power lines may be downed by the wind next week. Residents living the near the foothills and mountains are advised to review the Ready,Set,Go! fire plan. Most residents should be in the Set stage and being prepared to go in the event of the fire evacuation. .LONG TERM (SAT-TUE)...08/112 AM. Both the GFS and EC deterministic mdls as well as the ensemble means are in good agreement through Sunday evening. From Monday and on the mdls and ensembles diverge leading to less confidence for the Mon/Tue forecast. Onshore flow finally returns on Saturday and while there will be some weak northerly winds across the interior the csts/vlys will see a welcome return of the seabreeze. Dry NW flow aloft will prevail. Hgts will drop to 569 dam. Max temps will drop 4 to 8 degrees (xcp across the Antelope Vly where there will be little change) under sunny skies. Max temps will end up mostly in the 60s. On Sunday the NW upper flow begins to kink a little as a small impulse ripples into NV. Unfortunately sfc high pressure building into the Great Basin will bring another round of Santa Ana winds. Right now without any upper support it is likely that the wind gusts will be just under advisory levels. Max temps will change little everywhere except in the Antelope Vly where there will be about 4 degrees of cooling. The trof will continue down the CA/NV border and will elongate into Srn CA on Monday morning. From then on the exact upper pattern is a tough call with GFS keeping a weak trof over Srn CA. The EC on the other hand develops a full blown cut off low and moves it over eastern Pacific. Looking at all of the ensemble members there is a chance of a moderate offshore event on either one (but likely not both days). && .AVIATION...08/1800Z. At 18Z at KLAX, there was no marine layer nor an inversion. Good confidence in VFR conds, except for local MVFR/IFR conds due to smoke near any fires. Moderate confidence in wind forecast due to rapid and frequent changes in wind speed. ***Aviators need to be aware that most of Los Angeles and Ventura Counties will be affected by an unusually strong and dangerous north to northeast wind event into this afternoon*** Winds will be gusty and erratic, with lulls between gusts, so wind shift timing could be off by +/- 3 hours and off by +/- 30 degrees and wind speeds and as much as 20 kt at any one time. Widespread mdt to strong turbc is likely much of the time through early this afternoon, with occasional svr turbc and stg UDDF. Turbulence will be most prevalent near the mountains, including the Santa Monica Range, but is possible in coastal areas as well. There is currently smoke being observed at KSMO, Malibu and the west side of Los Angeles from the Palisades fire, and in the San Gabriel Valley from a fire near Altadena. Smoke is also being produced by the Hurst Fire in the San Fernando Valley along I-5. Any new fires today will produce smoke plumes, which may affect airfields. There could be blowing dust with MVFR vsbys at times for desert airfields especially in the first half of the fcst pd (KPMD, KWJF). KLAX...High confidence in VFR conds through the period. Lower confidence in wind fcst. Timing of winds changes could be off by +/- 3 hours. Winds will be gusty and erratic and wind direction will likely vary from 340 to 060 degrees thru 15Z. Wind speeds may be off by 10-15 kt at any time. Moderate to strong LLWS and turbulence will likely affect the airport at any time thru this afternoon, but especially thru 21Z Wed. **SVR turbulence is possible this morning.** There is a 20% chance of chc of a 25 kt east wind component through at least 21Z, but the wind component is likely to be more north or northeast than due east. There is a 30% chance winds do not shift from N-NE to west after 20Z Thursday. KBUR...High confidence in VFR conds through the period. Lower confidence in wind fcst. Timing of wind changes could be off by +/- 3 hours. Winds will be strong, gusty and erratic and wind direction will likely vary from 330 to 070 degrees. Wind speeds may be off by 10-20 kt at any time through 06Z. Moderate to strong LLWS and turbulence will likely affect the airport at any time thru this afternoon, but especially thru 00Z. SVR turbulence is possible this morning. There is a 20% chance of wind gusts to 45 kt at the airport thru 19Z. && .MARINE...08/818 AM. An exceptionally strong north-northeasterly wind event will continue to impact portions of our coastal waters through Wednesday. The strongest wind gusts and the worst sea conditions are expected tonight through early Wednesday morning inside the Southern California Bight. Mariners should expect DANGEROUS wind and sea conditions across all of waters from off the coast of Ventura County to Los Angeles and Orange Counties. This expansive area includes all of PZZ655, much of PZZ676, and the eastern/nearshore portions of the Santa Barbara Channel (Ventura Harbor and Port Hueneme through Point Mugu), including the waters around the Channel Islands and Catalina Island. ***Details*** For inner waters from Point Mugu to San Mateo Pt. CA including Santa Catalina and Anacapa Islands (PZZ655), expect GALE Force N to NE winds increasing to STORM Force winds early this morning through this afternoon/eve with gusts up to 55 kt. Combined seas will peak around 6 to 9 feet. For inner waters along Ventura County Coast (PZZ650) and the outer waters from Santa Cruz Island to San Clemente Island to 60 NM offshore including San Nicolas and Santa Barbara Islands (PZZ676), expect GALE force N to NE winds - 20 to 30 kts with gusts 35 to 45 kt through this afternoon/eve. Combined seas will peak around 7 to 10 feet for PZZ676 and 4 to 7 feet for PZZ650. Please take this situation seriously, mariners should remain in port, alter course, and/or secure the vessels as these exceptionally dangerous sea conditions could capsize or damage vessels of ALL sizes. && .LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CA...High Wind Warning remains in effect until 6 PM PST this evening for zones 87-88-358-362-366>380-548. (See LAXNPWLOX). Wind Advisory remains in effect until 6 PM PST this evening for zones 350-352>357-381-382. (See LAXNPWLOX). Wind Advisory remains in effect until 2 PM PST this afternoon for zone 383. (See LAXNPWLOX). Red Flag Warning in effect until 6 PM PST Thursday for zones 288-354-355-358-362-369>380-548. (See LAXRFWLOX). Fire Weather Watch in effect from Thursday evening through Friday afternoon for zones 288-358-362-369>376-378>380-548. (See LAXRFWLOX). Red Flag Warning in effect until 6 PM PST this evening for zones 352-353-367-381>383. (See LAXRFWLOX). Red Flag Warning in effect until 4 PM PST this afternoon for zones 366-368. (See LAXRFWLOX). PZ...Gale Warning in effect until 3 PM PST this afternoon for zone 650. (See LAXMWWLOX). Gale Warning in effect until 6 PM PST this evening for zone 676. (See LAXMWWLOX). && $$ PUBLIC...Rorke AVIATION...Black MARINE...Black/Smith SYNOPSIS...Hall weather.gov/losangeles Experimental Graphical Hazardous Weather Outlook at: https://www.weather.gov/erh/ghwo?wfo=lox