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879 FZUS81 KCLE 061800 ICEGL GREAT LAKES FREEZE-UP OUTLOOK NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CLEVELAND OH 1256 PM EST Wed Nov 06 2024 ...Great Lakes Ice Season for 2024-2025 Expected to Be Below Average Ice Cover... But...not as low as the anomalous 2023-2024 season. In a summary preface, a weak La Nina is expected into the winter months, temperatures have been above normal on the whole over the past few weeks and will continue into the next couple of weeks, and surface water temperatures across all Great Lakes are also running above normal for this time of year. Ice development may be delayed and the forecast for the season is below normal ice coverage for 2024-2025. The details follow. As we head deeper into the the Fall season, we are in the midst of the transition from the strong El Nino experienced in the winter of 2023-2024 into La Nina, but currently are at neutral conditions. Long range forecasts are predicting this La Nina to be on the weaker side and persisting through the winter. It is important to note that the status of El Nino/La Nina is not the sole determining factor in the long range winter outlooks, but it does set many things into motion. It will have influence on the other teleconnections such as the Arctic Oscillation (AO), the Pacific/North American teleconnection (PNA), and the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO), and the influences are not always the same despite similar statuses of El Nino/La Nina of past years. These teleconnections will often times have more of a direct impact on the seasonal conditions for the Great Lakes region. They will respond to the El Nino/La Nina occurring at the time and can then affect the local surface and upper level patterns over the Great Lakes for significant periods of time, ultimately influencing the behavior of the Great Lakes water temperatures and potential for freezing. Over the next two weeks, none of the teleconnections are showing any strong signals either way, although the AO and the NAO will be slightly positive. This can translate to milder conditions compared to early/mid November normals over the Great Lakes. The Oceanic Nino Index is a measure of the relative strengths of El Nino/La Nina over a three month period at a specific portion of the equatorial Pacific Ocean. There were 4 winter seasons since records have been kept where a weak La Nina emerged in the Oceanic Nino Index after an early Fall transition period like we are in now, and after a strong El Nino the previous winter that was characteristic of below average ice cover. These winters that followed were also characteristic of below average ice cover for the Great Lakes on the whole in 3 of the 4 similar events. Looking back over the past month, October has run 1-3 degrees Fahrenheit above normal for the southern portion of the Great Lakes, and 3-6 degrees Fahrenheit above normal for the central and northern portions of the Great Lakes. Long range model ensemble forecasts over the next two weeks depicts the overall potential for milder than normal conditions continuing through the middle of November. There is good consensus for this to occur amongst the different long range forecast model ensembles. Along with the warmer than normal conditions overall for the month of October, water temperatures across all of the Great Lakes are entering the cold season significantly above normal as well. With data compiled from 1995 onward, surface water temperature averages are running around 2-3 degrees Fahrenheit above normal for early November. Given these sets of information, the start of the ice season could be delayed unless some significant weather pattern changes that bring about more persistent cold airmasses into the Great Lakes occur for the end of November and into December. Something to watch during the winter is the potential for a more active larger scale pattern for the Great Lakes with higher amounts of precipitation, but also perhaps with weather systems producing higher amplitude swings of temperature. It is important to note that a long range prediction of slightly milder than normal temperatures for the region can still include cold air outbreaks, but with the net average still being above normal over an extended period of time. One component of this we will watch is the stratospheric polar vortex. If it weakens, this allows colder airmasses to drop southward from the polar regions more easily as opposed to when the vortex is strong where it becomes more difficult for the colder airmasses to migrate southward, which was the case last season. But in the end, these may be only short lived features that exit and then rebound to mild winter temperatures once again. Keep in mind that ice could develop earlier or later since ice development is highly dependent on the occurrence of cold air outbreaks and warm periods across the Great Lakes during the next two months. Ice formation is determined by two factors: The amount of heat stored in the water from the summer and how fast that heat can be removed by arctic outbreaks of Polar/Arctic air and high winds. Long range outlooks do not consider the "storminess" factor which can significantly alter the thermal structure of the lakes over short periods of time. THE LATEST HARBOR WATER TEMPERATURES COMPARED TO PREVIOUS YEARS: 2024 2023 2022 2021 2020 2019 2018 2017 2016 NORMAL DULUTH 49 49 51 44 40 40 42 44 48 44 SAULT STE MARIE 54 47 51 48 48 46 42 44 50 47 CHICAGO 56 53 55 52 47 44 46 44 52 53 ALPENA 51 51 54 49 47 42 42 46 50 48 DETROIT 56 49 51 47 52 44 43 42 50 52 CLEVELAND 59 53 55 53 53 51 48 50 55 56 BUFFALO 57 55 56 53 50 52 49 46 50 54 WATER TEMPERATURES FROM THE MID-LAKE BUOYS OR NEARBY SHIPS COMPARED TO PREVIOUS YEARS: LAKE SUPERIOR WEST 47 43 45 48 45 44 44 52 49 47 CENTRAL 48 44 44 MM 41 43 41 52 47 47 EAST 49 45 45 MM 42 46 41 52 52 48 LAKE MICHIGAN NORTH 53 52 48 56 50 51 49 56 59 54 SOUTH 57 54 51 59 47 50 51 58 61 56 LAKE HURON NORTH 48 46 51 57 49 49 45 51 56 53 SOUTH 58 53 54 56 46 49 49 59 57 55 LAKE ERIE WEST 56 54 54 60 MM 53 53 56 61 56 CENTRAL 59 55 57 60 55 56 53 63 62 58 EAST 58 55 56 60 53 54 53 62 59 57 FREEZING DEGREE DAY ACCUMULATIONS AT SELECTED STATIONS COMPARED TO NORMAL CALCULATED ON Tue Nov 5: LOCATION DATE NORMAL CURRENT ---------------------------------------- DULUTH, MN NOV 4 0 0 MARQUETTE, MI NOV 4 0 0 SAU_S_MAR, MI NOV 4 0 0 GREENBAY, WI NOV 4 0 0 MILWAUKEE, WI NOV 4 0 0 CHICAGO, IL NOV 4 0 0 MUSKEGON, MI NOV 4 0 0 ALPENA, MI NOV 4 0 0 DETROIT, MI NOV 4 0 0 TOLEDO, OH NOV 4 0 0 CLEVELAND, OH NOV 4 0 0 BUFFALO, NY NOV 4 0 0 NORMAL TEMPS FOR SELECTED LOCATIONS AROUND THE GREAT LAKES FOR Tue Nov 5 LOCATION HIGH LOW ---------------------------------------------- DULUTH,MN 38 24 MARQUETTE,MI 39 27 GREENBAY,WI 45 28 MILWAUKEE,WI 48 34 CHICAGO,IL 50 33 MUSKEGON,MI 48 33 ALPENA,MI 45 29 DETROIT,MI 50 35 TOLEDO,OH 50 34 CLEVELAND,OH 51 37 BUFFALO,NY 49 36 THE NEXT FREEZE-UP OUTLOOK WILL BE ISSUED IN APPROXIMATELY TWO WEEKS. $$ Marsalek