Prognostic Meteorological Discussion
Issued by NWS
Issued by NWS
126 FXUS02 KWBC 101952 PMDEPD Extended Forecast Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 252 PM EST Mon Nov 10 2025 Valid 12Z Thu Nov 13 2025 - 12Z Mon Nov 17 2025 ...Atmospheric River to move south across California on Thursday bringing a threat of heavy rain and mountain snows... ...Overview... Lake effect precipitation on Thursday with the continues upper troughing in the Northeast. Temperatures are marginal, but some snow accumulation is likely in the higher terrain of upstate NY and northern New England. Upper ridging in the West will shift to the central part of the country which will usher in much warmer than average temperatures into the weekend. By Thursday into Friday troughing will move into the West directing an impactful atmospheric river into California. This troughing subsequently moves and transitions with lingering uncertainty to the Southwest/Rockies and Plains over the weekend. ...Guidance/Predictability Assessment... Large scale trough is expected to move into the West by the weekend, however there remains significant uncertainty regarding the exact evolution of this troughing as it moves into the Southwest and eventually the Plains. Essentially there are two possible outcomes...one being a more phased/stronger trough that ends up more progressive in pushing a front and eventual strong low into the Plains...and the other more of a split trough, with the southern stream energy cutting off resulting in a slower eastward progression. The previous WPC forecast leaned solutions that indicated there would be a slower eastward progression across the Plains. Today`s approach utilized the new NBM/EC/EC ensemble means/CMC/CMC means/previous QPF forecast along with some GFS/GEFS means. This helped reduce the waffling of location of the impactful weather and provide a sense of continuity. ...Weather/Hazards Highlights... An atmospheric river and cold front will be surging onshore/southward through California Thursday with model consensus supporting moderate to strong IVT values with this system, along with strong convergence along the front and favorable upper support. Portions of southern California have the potential to pick up 1 to 3+ inches of rainfall and heavy, wet mountain snows at higher elevations. Given the moisture influx and instability expected there will be an elevated threat for flash flooding for southern California and near the foothills, but that may be limited with how progressive the front ends up being. A Marginal risk for excessive rainfall will be maintained for Day 4 - an upgrade to a Slight risk is a possibility for the favored terrain of southern CA, especially if confidence continues to increase in the heavy rain rate potential with further updates. It should also be noted that a more offshore and slower evolution of the closed low is still a possibility (albeit seemingly a lower probability outcome at the moment), with the AIFS showing this evolution pretty consistently. This evolution would prolong the rainfall and increase the flood risk, so will need to continue to monitor trends. Confidence on specifics for this system this weekend and beyond continue to be below average as the run to run vacillationwhether it will be a quicker advancement through the Plains or a slower, closed progression. Which in turn would have substantial impacts to location of sensible weather and QPF amounts. The quicker solutions would have supported a widespread convective threat from the Plains into the MS Valley by Saturday, with rain spreading into the OH valley and Mid-atlantic Sunday into Monday. The slower and more closed off runs focus the convective threat over the Southern PLains into the lower MS Vally later Saturday into Sunday. These latter solutions would also likely result in more of a significant weather threat, as the closed low has impressive large scale forcing and is able to tap into moisture from the Gulf. Would expect a stronger thunderstorm threat to exist in this scenario with flash flooding a risk. The latest runs hint at leaning toward favoring the slower, more closed off scenario. Higher confidence persists in regards to above seasonal normal temperatures from the Intermountain West into the Plains on Thursday, spreading east across the Plains and into portions of the MS and TN valley Friday into the weekend. Each day the maximum temperatures are expected to reach 10 to 20 degrees above average. The timing of the cold front bringing colder temperatures over the West and eventually the Plains is of lower confidence and related to the uncertainty with the troughing evolution. Campbell/Chenard Additional 3-7 Day Hazard information can be found on the WPC medium range hazards outlook chart at: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/threats/threats.php WPC medium range 500mb heights, surface systems, weather grids, quantitative precipitation forecast (QPF), excessive rainfall outlook (ERO), winter weather outlook (WWO) probabilities, heat indices, and Key Messages can be accessed from: https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/5dayfcst500_wbg.gif https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/5dayfcst_wbg_conus.gif https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/5km_grids/5km_gridsbody.html https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/day4-7.shtml https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/#page=ero https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/wwd/pwpf_d47/pwpf_medr.php?day=4 https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/heat_index.shtml https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/#page=ovw $$